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diff --git a/meeting-logs/20110210-summary.txt b/meeting-logs/20110210-summary.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..c38edf6 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20110210-summary.txt @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +Present: alexxy, dilfridge, jmbsvicetto, scarabeus, tampakrap +Absent: ABCD, spatz +HTs: krytzz, papillon81 + +0) Elect new lead + +nominees: +Accepted: bonsaikitten, dilfridge, reavertm, tampakrap +Refused: alexxy, jmbsvicetto, scarabeus + +results: +scarabeus -> tampakrap +dilfridge -> tampakrap +bonsaikitten -> tampakrap +tampakrap -> reavertm +alexxy -> tampakrap +reavertm -> tampakrap +jmbsvicetto -> tampakrap + +tampakrap is the new KDE Team Lead + +1) Status regarding hal + +Since KDE SC 4.6 is out, we don't need it anymore. As soon as 4.6 +gets stable, hal can die. + +2) Should we try to form a "stable KDE devs" team? Meaning just call for volunteers on the dev ml? + +dilfridge stated that since most of the kde team members use ~arch, +stable seems to lag behind. The problem is very obvious now, mainly +because we haven't stabilized 4.4. The problem will go away as soon +as 4.6 gets stable though. +Apart from main kde, the misc apps are also slow in stabilization. +We expect users to request for stabilizations in bugzilla. + +3) kde-git/eclasses migration and status, move kdepim 4.6 beta in tree masked + +reavertm, Sput, and scarabeus did a major cleanup in our eclasses +and added git support to eclasses and ebuilds. In order to migrate +the eclasses to tree we will need to get git-2.eclass in tree first +(it is now in kde overlay as well). ETA: not less than a month. As a +side note, we decided to remove koffice-specific codeout of the eclasses. + +4) Shall we drop useflags kdeenablefinal and/or kdeprefix to simplify code? + +First of all, both useflags are masked. We agreed to keep kdeenablefinal, +since it is an upstream feature. About kdeprefix, the problem is that +bindings are not prefixed, and a possible fix (proposed by reavertm) +would be to slot sip. tampakrap said he'll work on this, and bring the +topic back in next meeting. + +5) Dropping of semantic-desktop useflag with guide update (mostly even kdebase needs it on now) + +This entry is invalid, semantic-desktop is not needed by kdebase. +The problem is in our ebuilds (plasma-workspace is semi broken, +kdeplasma-addons is completely broken). We have open bugs for those, +the problem is clearly in our side. + +6) Making +consolekit and +policikit or removing the useflags as whole (non working stuff run-as is annoying) + +scarabeus and dilfridge are in favour of dropping them, since it +caused a lot of trouble debugging various user reports. reavertm +prefers adding it to IUSE defaults. No consensus was succeeded, +the topic will be continued in the gentoo-desktop mailing list. + +7) HT/overlay/bugzie access policy + +Since we don't have a clear list of who is an HT and who isn't, we +decided to compile a list, and state what priviledges the HT has. +(HT = Herd Tester). Some people don't have time/motivation to complete +their ebuild quiz, thus we'll have two groups of people: + * full HTs (overlay access, editbugs, access to ktown, IRC cloak) + * overlay commiters +We decided to drop the KDE HT Lead title, seems rather useless. + +8) LiveDVD issues + +LiveDVD comes with KDE SC 4.6 as default DE, and we called likewhoa +(the guy behind it) to report any issues. He said that everything +seems to be fine, but random users wanted the cool gentoo graphics +to be applied to in-tree ebuilds as well. The KDE Team is willing +to do that, likewhoa said he'll provide us some artwork and we'll +discuss again the USE="branding" issue. + +9) documentation status + +There has been a major improvement in the guide, added some 4.6 specific +tips and troubleshooting parts, we need to add a hal->udev migration +guide, and migrate some texts that are in kde overlay to guidexml. + +10 & 11) 4.6 (and misc apps with 4.6) status , Early discussion about 4.6 stabilization + +KDE SC 4.6 is going fine, we all agreed that 4.6.1 could be a good +candidate, we'll discuss it again after its release. About a 4.6 +KDEPIM version, no idea yet, we'll have to wait on upstream moves first. +Most misc apps seem to be fine with 4.6 as well. + +*) Open floor + +One major issue is digikam, it comes with lots of bundled libraries, +which violates the Gentoo QA Policy. We heard that Debian has same +thoughts on the matter, we'll have to bring them to table. Relevant +bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265328 + +Desktop Summit! We were invited last year to Akademy to give a talk +about Gentoo-KDE, noone made it. Some of us expressed interest for +this year's event, which combines GUADEC and Akademy.
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